Hi Scawen,

thanks for coming back so late.You should get some sleep:-)
Back to topic.I did a lot of tests between these systems several times. I dont have actually 2 standalone systems. I just change mobo+CPU+RAM and always do format and clean install. The graphic card remain the same and its ATI 4870 512MB ram.

The odd is that online I get more FPS but offline I get less when driving alone on Blackwood with XFG( view on wheels).Same on other tracks. In some places same in some I get with better CPU less. As I said the difference is around 10 percent worst maybe a little bit more on the new system and it go really down more then 10 percent(went from around 200 to almost 140FPS) at the place in attached picture. Same behaviour around the whole track. Some places seems same and some worst. Odd and dont know what it could be as the installas of XP are always fresh so it seems not the software related on my side, nor hardware as I mentioend when testing other games there is significant boost.

Well I wanted to report that even the FPS seems really nice and high as I consider this a bit strange behaviour.

The one with CnQ enabled and LFS cant stress the CPU to switch it to higher power state I consider more a AMD driver bug but still other games dont behave like that.

I did not mentioned earlier that I am using FRAPS to see the FPS as the FPS meter in LFS seems to showing not consisten values. It just jump pretty quickly a bit up and down so its not to possile to correctly read the FPS value at any time.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Fri 10 Jul 2009, 23:26.

lol, kidna look like a person who just cant thing about some things a bit.

Its funny but as well abit confusing how someone can post such a thing

Well I run with CnQ disabled because then my CPU stay at 800Mhz all the time and I get like 30-50 percent drops on LFS. It sucks.

The issue I mentioned above when my CPU it at full speed(no CnQ enabled). The 10 percent drop doesnt make sense to me even if the both CPU would be same fast clock per clock which is not the case. The new CPU is faster per clock and has even +800Mhz more.

Really odd.

Hi,

I already posted that at the end of Patch Z13 thread.I really see some strange behaviour with my new system on LFS. Its around 10 percent in FPS drop. I changed A64 3200+ to Phenom II X3 720. Its actually a change from single core 2Ghz processor to triple core 2.8 Ghz and the new architecutre is even much faster per clock and using just single core.

I got huge boost in every other game but it somehow struggle. Tried 3 fresh installs(actually six because swithing the old mother board with odl CPU and memory and then the new mother board + CPU + memory) and tested various games including LFS and always the same. LFS went down other games so much higher. Not sure what it might be :-(.

Sorry if this wrong thread but I can not ping point to anything then just LFS.

Scawen,
Please could be possible with some test patch give back 0ms Minimum sleep.Just for testing because it might be really interesting. I got idea (might be totally worng ofcourse from my side)that 1ms and anything above significantly holding the CPU and hence possibility of the strange behaviour. Just an idea. It might be something else in LFS ofcourse. Maybe something eveb different but I can not narrow it anywhere else.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Fri 10 Jul 2009, 21:18.

Hi,

This is my upgraded system after a lot of research.

CPU: Phenom II X3 720 Black edition
CPU cooler: Xigmatek HDT S1283
Motherboard: Gigabyte 790XT-UD4P
Memory: Adata Extreme edition 2x2 GB DDR3 1600+ 8-8-8-24 T1
VGA: Gainward 4850 512MB DDR5 - Goes like hell edition
PSU: Eurocase 550W 36A 14cm fan
HDD: 80GB WD + 250GB WD
Wheel: Logitech Formula Force GP
Mouse: Logitech LX7
OS: Win XP SP3 Pro - fresh installation :-)

Did some photos just with CPU & memory & mobo but I am lazy to upload it.Maybe later:-)

EDIT: added aftermarket cooler which I i bought and installed just today

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Fri 10 Jul 2009, 21:33.

Hi,

just upgraded my system from A64 2Ghz (single CPU) to Phenom II X3 720 (tripple core 2.8Ghz) and I see strange behaviour regarding performance (FPS)

When QnC is enabled LFS is simply not able to enought stress the CPU to get to another powerstage so it would go to higher frequency. Not sure really a LFS issue but might be probably AMD QnC driver bug. Weird this was not happening on the older processor with same feature.

Another issue is regarding Singleplayer. Compared my FPS and in some place LFS give me less FPS then on older system. The system on my new rig is with fresh installed WinXP3.
The odd is then in every other game I gained significatn performance boost but not in LFS. Strange.

Also tried to set CPU afinity to only 1 core but no change at all.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Thu 9 Jul 2009, 22:17.

I like to the the stop motion but its kinda sometimes hard especially with dogs:-) . Sorry fopr the extra widescreen one.

pussies

I can confim as well.
Its working now and I thought an scirocco suprize is coming. Sorry couldnt help myself. Going to sleep now - working day tommrow.

Never saw before any of the messages realted to the skin downloading and dont know if its realted to this patch or not.
Dunno if its realted to the main LFS webiste being down.

Main LFS website down?

I cant access www.lfs.net or www.liveforspeed.com

old one but I its a good one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... ge8oM&feature=related

Some machos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... 0zOh0&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... GpEF0&feature=related

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Mon 6 Jul 2009, 21:17.

TVE I need G25. When I need to spam you to be succesfull?
My Formalu Force GP is simply dying. I cant even make WR anymore

No excuses,bulshits or whatsoever...

Well I saw what they doing with dogs in China and its not really a nice to see it looking at it from our standards.

I got one who will become my wife in September this year.
She even to plan to buy me G25 but she doesnt know that I know . Who would not marry such a woman

I signed because I have a dog as well which is like another familly members.

Those above posted like "why dont eat dog" are as***** in my eyes.
Sorry but I take it really personally when someone is talking about dogs that way.

thanks for your feedback Scawen.

Weird....you ship for example to tiny,tiny San Marino but dont to Czech republic and more examples like that:-(.

Unplug the router from the powerplug for at least 1 minute.
Sometimes the router(its in fact a kind of small pc) might get stucked. When you rebot it then it usually start working fine as well.

Let us know.

Quote from Shadowww :

If you are speaking about me... Mine CPU supports AMD-v.

I thought AMD added it later. My fault.
Sorry for kidnapping the thread a bit.

Thanks.
Its the only way for me to buy it so I dont have to threw out of the window the great Zalman cooler.

Just wonderng how you can using virtualization on your hardware which does not support it

Congratulation Rokie41.
I am going to get married on 5th September 2009 by the way

I just heard about that possibility so I wanted to try him something first.
Is it really giving so low FPS?

I dont have the new hardware yet(went to RMA right after I bought it:-( ) which support virtualization.

I never has been buying anything on Ebay. How I can found out that this guy is reliable?